Now that we have finished reading the short story, you are going to begin an online discussion about it. For this post, pick a couple of the questions to answer (in 5 or more sentences).
Here are your options:
- Why isn't Pete very nice to Sucker until after he starts seeing Maybelle?
- Why does Pete think that if he had spoken loudly or hit Sucker, his awful words wouldn't have been so bad?
- Why can't Pete fix the situation with Sucker? Why can't Pete make himself tell Sucker that he didn't mean what he said?
- Do you think Sucker becoming a tough kid is a good thing?
This is a graded assignment. You must post an answer and then respond to at least two other students. If a student responds to your post, then you should respond back, and begin a dialogue. Things to remember:
- You need to write your response in Pages first, and check your post for spelling and grammatical errors. NO TEXT LANGUAGE IS ALLOWED! CAPITALIZE THE BEGINNING OF EVERY SENTENCE! Then copy and paste it into the blog.
- Don't forget to post your blog number every time. Also, please restate the question in your response.
- Paragraphs must be a minimum of 5 sentences. (If you're shooting for an A, 8 sentences).
- Please respond respectfully to your classmates, not everyone is going to have the same opinions as you
- Posts are anonymous. Please don't give away your identifying number, and please respect other's privacy.
63 comments:
#320
Pete isn’t nice to Sucker after he started seeing Maybelle, because
when Maybelle said she didn’t want to go on a date with Pete, and
humiliated him, so he decided to take his emotions and feelings out on
Sucker. Then Sucker thought he needed to get tough and did. Now Pete
can’t take back what he said, because whenever he looks at Sucker to tell
him that he’s sorry, Sucker gives him a mean look and he cant tell him when
he’s looking at him like that
#302
If Pete would have been nicer to Sucker then with the things that happened to Sucker would have happened and then Sucker would still be like he was before Pete was mad at him. So if Pete was nicer to his little brother then he would have not been so afraid of him and not continued to push Sucker to his breaking point.
#344 - I think it’s a good thing that Sucker(Richard) became a tough kid because now his Pete knows not to mess with him anymore. I think that the only reason why he became a tough kid is because the things his Pete said to him were so hurtful so it changed him. Pete can’t fix the situation with Sucker because he knows he really hurt Sucker’s feelings. Also because the look that Sucker gives him makes Pete want to hold back from telling Sucker sorry. I think that Maybelle changed Pete from nice to angry because what she said and did to him.
336
I think Pete wasn’t very nice to Sucker until he starting seeing Maybelle because he was always thinking how he would never be with her and she was all she could ever think of so he wouldn’t pay much attention to how he treated people, especially Sucker. Than once he started seeing Maybelle he was in a better mood and everything was great so he wanted to be nice to everyone.
320 to 336
i understand what you saying, pete likes maybelle a lot yet when she humiliates him for the last time, he takes it out on sucker.
#340
Dear #344 I really agree with your opinion, I put almost the exact same thing, and I thought you made some really good points. I really do think that Suckers’ becoming bad was a good thing because all it did was get Pete’s respect, and like you said, i know that
he was just mad that he couldn’t get Mayblle so he was acting rude to Sucker.
#344
I think it’s a good thing that Sucker(Richard) became a tough kid because now his Pete knows not to mess with him anymore. If Pete would have hit Sucker then it wouldn’t have been so bad because Sucker is used to Pete hitting him and yelling at him. But since Pete was quiet and calm about what he said it probably hurt him more than usual. I think that the only reason why he became a tough kid is because the things his Pete said to him were so hurtful so it changed him. Pete can’t fix the situation with Sucker because he knows he really hurt Sucker’s feelings. Also because the look that Sucker gives him makes Pete want to hold back from telling Sucker sorry. I think that Maybelle changed Pete from nice to angry because what she said and did to him. I also think that when he saw Maybelle he thought that he might actually have a chance with her and that made him happy until she got with the other guy with the Roadster.
320 to 344
id have to disagree with you on saying that its a good thing for sucker to become a bad kid. yes he got treated really badly, but now that he got that idea, he's going to bully others.
#322
Pete isn’t very nice to Sucker until after he starts seeing Maybelle because like now he’s all happy. Once he was seeing Maybelle he felt better about himself and then started talking to Sucker. Before Maybelle wouldn’t talk to Pete and just ignore him, so Pete would take all of his emotions and take it out on Sucker. When she talked to him, he would talk to Sucker. But when Maybelle ignored him he would ignore Sucker. Basically Pete was just being another Maybelle.
#326
He cant fix the situation with sucker because of all the harsh word. He told him that he never really liked him and that that he should stop bothering him. Pete cant make himself tell sucker that he didn’t mean what he said. He doesn’t want to tell him that he told him all that because he was mad at somebody else and didn’t really mean it. pete is nice to sucker until maybelle started to pay little attention to pete. then maybelle told him some mean stuff and he could not tell sucker. So he told him some mean stuff too.
#340
I think that sucker becoming a bad kid is actually a good thing. Pete didn’t respect him until he turned bad, and people should always be respected no matter what. I think it’s dumb how it took sucker’s change from good to bad for Pete to gain his respect. And it seems to me that the only reason that he gave him any respect at all is because he either felt bad for treating him the way he did when he was in love with Mayblle or he feared Sucker and didn’t wand anything to happen to him. So actually, becoming bad, for sucker, is a good thing.
#310
I think Pete isn’t very nice to Sucker until he starts seeing Maybelle because he is mad that Maybelle doesn’t like him,so he takes it out on Sucker. Also after she humiliated him he got mad and he talked mean to Sucker even if he didn’t do anything.I think it is a god thing Sucker became a tough kid because now Pete is nicer to him. The only bad thing is that his brother won’t say he is sorry for what he said because he always give him a mean look. Lastly if he didn’t become a tough kid he would have to deal with his brother being mean to him every day.
#304
I think that sucker becoming a tough kid in one way is a good thing and in a few ways a bad thing. The good thing is that sucker finally has friends. That means that he doesn’t have to be alone anymore. He finally has people to hang out wit and talk to. One bad thing is maybe these are the wrong friends. Maybe sucker will be into a lot of mischief and trouble because of the friends that he has chosen. His friend’s influences may be bad and sucker might end up doing something that he might regret that will get him into a lot of trouble.
#344 TO #320
It actually is a good thing that he sticks up for his self because notice how Pete has different thoughts about him now.....He is becoming a better person because he is learning to assert hi self and not take things that he doesn't have to.
330
1: Do you think sucker becoming a tough kid is a good thing?
No personally i think sucker was a good little boy and the family did not have to buy him new clothes but after Pete was so mean to him he was getting in to fights and not acting the same. What i mean by that is he was looking up to Pete and now he dose not respect him even close to what he did before those mean words that he told him. That is so mean!!!!
2: Why isn’t Pete very nice to Sucker until he starts seeing Maybelle
Pete was not very nice to Sucker until he starts seeing Maybelle because
that was how Maybelle was treating Pete be for they started seeing one and other. Then Maybelle and Pete were seeing each other he started to be nicer to poor Sucker.
#326
dear #320 I agree that it all started when he was seeing maybelle.
#324 I thought this story was a very good story. I think its a good thing that Sucker isn’t such a wimp any more because even though what Pete said was kinda mean it was good that he told him what he did because I think if he hadn’t then Sucker would sill be a wimp. What Pete said to Sucker made him mad and made him just grow up.I also think that now that Pete has said what he did now he can’t take it back and so his relationship with sucker is not to good.
#310
#304, I agree with you that it is a good thing that Sucker became a bad kid because now he has friends.
#302
320 I think your heading the right way, but Pete's feelings toward Maybelle made him act that way when he was dumped, he got depressed and was always so mad at everything not just Sucker.
336
340 and 344, I agree too. Since Suckers a bad kid now, no one will mess with him or push him around like before, especially Pete.
#344
Dear #340
Thank you for agreeing with me. I think your comment is right too because I think we all have a time in our lives where we just can't take anymore bad things and that point, for Sucker, was with Pete. The only reason Pete had problems was because Maybelle didn't treat him with respect so he had to make himself feel good by disrespecting Sucker.
#320
Pete isn’t nice to Sucker after he started seeing Maybelle, because
when Maybelle said she didn’t want to go on a date with Pete, and
humiliated him, so he decided to take his emotions and feelings out on
Sucker. Then Sucker thought he needed to get tough and did. Now Pete
can’t take back what he said, because whenever he looks at Sucker to tell
him that he’s sorry, Sucker gives him a mean look and he cant tell him when
he’s looking at him like that. I think Sucker becoming a bad kid is a bad thing.
If he wants to earn Pete respect, he should do it in another way. Now he probly
has a bad idea and is going to bully others. Which is totally not okay. But Pete
shouldn’t have even thought about taking his anger out on Sucker. I think Pete
instead should have told him to leave him alone for a while, or some other way.
#322
dear 344
I completely agree with about Sucker being a tough kid now. He shouldn't be picked on and now Pete won't mess with him. Pete's hurtful words probably did change him and now stands up for himself.
#326
dear #324 I agree that it is good that sucker started to grow up and not be such a wimp.
#340
Dear 304, I can see where you’re coming from too. I really do think thats it’s a good thing that he turned bad because he has gained respect from Pete, but I can totally see how he might later on regret hanging out with those specific type of groups. But 304, I want you’re opinion, on which side do you fall on more? Good thing, or bad thing?
to #310
I think your right. Pete isn't nice to sucker until he starts seeing maybelle. But he does start being mean to sucker again after him and maybelle break up.
#304
#328
I think the story sucker is very sad. Pete should have treated sucker a lot better. Since Pete was so mean it led Sucker to being rebellious and mean. I think Sucker is showing Pete that he put up with him for all of those years and finally he just got fed up with it. I think Sucker is showing that he has a tough, mad side to him. Pete should just try talking to Sucker. If Pete doesn’t do something about it now Sucker might start to hate him even more. Maybe Sucker is just waiting for Pete to Apologize. An apology would probably be really nice coming from the person who Sucker looked up to for so long. He probably wants the person that he always loved and looked up to, to tell him that he is sorry and that he actually does care about him.
#330
to:#324
Maybe that was suckers personality and when he change he just was not sucker any more.
#324
#322 I agree with you Pete was being another Maybelle whatever she would do to him he would do to Sucker.=)
#304
your right the words that pete said to sucker did change him.
#304
308
I think the story was wonderful! I do believe that sucker becoming tough is not a very good thing. I think this because he might end up getting in trouble with the group of kids he is always hanging out with, but now he can stick up for himself. I think that Pete wasn’t very nice to Sucker until he starts seeing Maybelle because Pete didn’t have anything to be happy about, but Maybelle made him happy. I think that Pete thinks if he hit Sucker the words he said wouldn’t have been so bad because if he hit him he would have gotten out more anger. Therefore his words would not have been so harsh. I think the story has a good theme going on. It shows you that you should always treat people in a good way even if your not to happy at the moment, because you never know what’s going to happen next. That's my outlook of the story.
324
Sucker took Pete’s words in a bad way. Maybe he seems tougher but he just wants to be. The fact thats he’s has friends now isn’t a good thing. he’ll just want to be with them when he probaly doesn’t agree with what they do or say. Pete should just talk to him instead of sitting around smoking all day. It will most likely never resolve if he doesn’t talk to Richard(Sucker).
#340
Dear 320, tell me exactly why you think its a bad thing for sucker becoming bad? I'm sorry but I'm going to have to disagree with YOU, he shouldn't take stuff just because he's younger, and see how it all turned out? Its a good thing.
#302
That was a good point. When pete was dumped he was depressed & mad at everything.
#304
#326
dear #330 I agree as soon as pete told sucker all that he never had the same respect that he has always had for him.
336
I feel pretty bad for Sucker. All he wants is for Pete to pay attention to him and like him but no matter what he does Pete still doesn’t notice him anymore than before until he got together with Maybelle. Than once Maybelle told Pete off, he went back to treating Sucker bad but this time Sucker changed too. None of this was fair to Sucker, it wasn’t his fault Maybelle did what she did so why is he being punished for all this? I hope Pete realizes what he did.
That's True #310 and #304 at least now sucker (Richard) has friends.
~#324~
#330
TO:#340
yea but that was kinda a good thing but it changed sucker to some one with the looks of sucker and the personality of some one totally different.
#316
Pete and Maybelle are really different and she seems like a heartless person, if she can use him like that for so long then act like she cares when she really doesn’t, then it shows you she is heartless. Pete only treats Sucer like that becuase that’s how Maybelle treated him, and he only wanted someone to feel the same he did or how he had been treated. The only person that was there was Sucker, but i do believe that if he had talked to someone it could of eneded in a better way, instead of always taking it out on Sucker. Also Sucker and Pete would still be close and would get along. I just think that if a person is that crazy about someone and it’s bothering them, they should talk to a person or close friend that you could trust and know would understand. This short story shows you that behavior and attitude really can change a person and the way the think. Also its good to talk and let your emotions out. :)
#340
Dear 344, you are welcome. Everything that you said is true, and people might have other opinions but I think that its good for Sucker to stand up to him. HE shouldn't have to take it all just because he's younger! Don't you think so too?
324
I think pete wished he yelled and hit sucker because then Sucker would of thought he was just mad and it was just another fight... but pete sounded very calm and serious so Sucker felt very bad and wanted to fix it with anger and being a rebel. Do you think Sucker is just feeling bad for himself?
#302
That was a good point. When pete was dumped he was depressed & mad at everything.
#304
316 to 308 i agree with you the story was great! :)
#310
#308, I think that Sucker should still act tough because then he has friends and Pete doesn't bother him anymore. Another thing is if he didn't become a tough kid he could have gone crazy from Pete bullying him and done worse stuff then having friends that do bad things.
#344
Dear #308,
I disagree with you because I think that him becoming a tough kid will help him to assert his self. He might get in trouble, but at least people know that he is not a punk anymore. And half the time you have to be mad for a reason no matter what happens next.
316 to 324
good job! i like how you stay on topic! keep up the good work! :D
#326
dear #310 I don't think that pete is nicer to sucker just because he's tough now they don't even talk.
#302
324 I agree with what you are saying about Sucker and Pete and about the book. If Pete never said those things Sucker would still be a sucker and start to get him self in more more danger. If Pete just apologized to Sucker then Sucker wouldn't be a wimp anymore, but still friends with Pete.
336
304, I agree its good that Sucker has friends but those kids could get him into a lot of trouble so its not really worth it.
Dear 330
Well we all have different point of views, and we just don't agree, no big deal
_340_
308
I agree with you 310. I also think that Pete was mean to Sucker because Maybelle doesn't like him.
#344
Dear #340,
I think you are so right!!! No one should be treated different just because they are younger or smaller. Everyone should be treated equally no matter what and I hope we all live to see the day that happens. But yeah I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY!!!
#330
TO:#344
yea we should no how to keep our feeling about one person to that person and not to a different person because Pete could not keep the to people apart and now sucker is hurt and has changed
308
I agree with you 344 about how it's to late for Pete to tell Sucker sorry because he already hurt his feelings.
#310, i don't agree with you, you shouldn't have to act tough to have friends. they should like you just the way you are.
#322
#308
that is true about Sucker getting into a fight because he's a tough kid now and would maybe treat people how he was treated. So being a tough kid isn't such a good thing either
#328
Dear 322
Maybelle and Pete are a very good comparison. Maybelle treated Pete like he wasn't there and then she started to talk to him a lot more. She even started to hang out with him more. Then all of a sudden she just stopped talking to Pete. Thats pretty much what Pete did to Sucker. Pete acted like Sucker wasn't even there. Then Maybelle started to talk to him and he started treating sucker a lot better. When Maybelle stopped talking to Pete, he started to treat Sucker really bad again.
#324
#316, I agree that it would have ended out better if Pete would have just talked about it.
#328
Dear 336
I feel bad for sucker too. Pete should have been a lot nicer to him. Pete treated him really really bad. Sucker seems like he would have been a really good kid.
332
In this story, Pete can’t fix the situation with Sucker. I think that Pete can’t seem to make himself tell Sucker that he didn’t mean what he said because of Sucker’s hard stare. Pete use to always have power over Sucker but when Sucker stares hard at Pete, suddenly Sucker becomes more big and powerful. He’s no longer the little kid who will do anything Pete says. The relationship between the two of them becomes hard and so whenever Pete feels like apologizing to Sucker, he decides not because he can’t seem to approach the new, tough, Sucker. They no longer communicate like brothers and Sucker has become a whole new person. Since Sucker is this bad boy now, he probably wouldn’t even believe Pete if he apologized.
332
dear 320,
I agree with your paragraph. I think what you said was very true. Good job!
332
dear 310,
I kind of disagree with what you said to 308. It would be really good if Sucker felt better about himself and was more tough, but he became a bad kind of tough. Hanging out with bad people and doing bad things is not a good kind of tough. A good kind of tough would be to have self confidence and be able to stand up for yourself.
332
dear 336,
You did a great job! I agree with what you said.
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